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Posted by XOskeletonRED on April 09, 2003 at 10:54:07:
In Reply to: Re: Smeringus Mesaensis posted by XOskeletonRED on April 09, 2003 at 10:46:48:
There are two subspecies of this scorpion on the market for the pet trade, one of which is from California and has a yellow tint (avail at Invertepet.com [Bill]), the other being from Arizona and has the clear appearance (the ones you had apparently mentioned. avail at GoldenPhoenixExotica.com). Be careful if you order from one store that you, indeed purchase the subspecies that you are truthfully interested in purchasing. The clear variety is the most attractive in my opinion as well.
adios,
edw.
: Your wife got you a scorp? Totally awesome wife, dude! You'd better keep her! *lol* Indeed, Chris is completely right about the Dune Scorpion. They require a very fine grain of sand, unlike the Hairy because, obviously, by the name, they live in sand dunes. This makes them a little more expensive to keep because filling a ten gallon tank with 5" of extremely fine grain sand can reach near $70.00 alone! Desert Hairies are obligate burrowers as well, but a good piece of dried wood can serve quite well for their hide making them the cheaper to keep. Biggest thing with breeding one of these two species is this. There are extremely few people in the scorpion hobby who have had successful breeding of Hadrurus (Hairies) and even fewer who have successfully kept the young alive past the sixth moult. They are both considered highly aggressive scorpions, but as far as all out speed goes, the S. mesaensis is the only one you truly have to worry about. Then again, no matter how fast your hand moves, it probably wont be as fast as even the Hairy scorps (medium ratings on total speed), but faster than the human eye for most of them I have kept.
: If your wife tries to kill you, just keep her reminded of who got you into them. *lol*
:adios,
:edw.
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::Thanks a lot for your info, Chris. I've been tossing around ideas for my next scorpion setup and frankly I seem to want just about every species I've found LOL.
::I've contacted Bill about P. Colei and he is indeed out and doesn't know when he'll get more - but I'm on the list. Aside from that, I'm looking to setup another tank with desert spec of scorp and I'm kinda at a toss-up between Flat Rocks, Dunes, and Hairies. I've pretty much striked the Flat Rocks from the list because I want something that's both active in daylight and very fiesty when it comes to attacking prey. Seeing that H. Spadix and S. Mesaensis both hit the mark, I think I'm going to have to try S. Mesaensis simply because I find their translucent quality to be quite an eye-catcher.
::I've not yet attempted to breed any species of scorpions so far in my scorpion-owning career, so I'm going to make the P. Colei and the S. Mesaensis my first attempts and see what happens. I understand that Emperors are very easy to breed, but they are saturating the local market just about anywhere you look.
::I'll post another thread regarding P. Colei breeding at a later time, but as for the Dunes, I'll review the current threads and see how H. Spadix breeding processes go and see what I can come up with.
::My wife's gonna kill me.
::LCDXX
:::Their common name is the Dune Scorpion, and they come from California and Arizona. Care is, in fact, similar to H. arizonsis. Humidity should be kept around 50%, though from what I understand they aren't quite as intollerant of humidity as is H. arizonsis. They're fast and aggressive, so don't touch! I can't find an LD50 rating, though they're not medically significant and infact have fairly mild venom (should hurt about as much as a hornet sting if he/she really lays into you). Temp should be between 82-85 during the day and drop to 75-78 at night. They're obligate burrowers, which means you'll need at least 5 inches of a sand substrate that has been pre-wetted and dried to allow for easy burrowing. Also, a flat rock or other hid-condusive object would aid with their burrowing. Feeding is self-explanitory seeing has you have scorps. If you intend on breeding I'm guessing that a hibernation period might be necessary.
:::If I missed something just let me know.
:::As for the P. Colei, Bill over at Invertepet.com is all out right now, but he'll probably be getting some in soon. You should send him an email.
:::Peace,
:::Chris
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